Libertarian Viewpoint on Freedom of Speech

I was compeled to write about freedom of speech when some friends of mine commented, if government authorities were to be offended or intimidated by what I or anyone eles was writing here on libertarianviewpoint.com, we would be in some trouble (or at least increase the risk of getting into trouble). So I did a little research on freedom of speech law, and as of now my mind continues to be at ease. Additionally, I found some issues I’d like to critique to prompt a some discussions on.

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First, some history:

Given here on libertarianviewpoint.com we most commonly engage through a libertarian framework in the direct criticism of government, it’s policies, the consequences of such policies, solutions in redressing grievances to potentially oppressive policies (i.e. staging a revolution, civil disobedience, etc.), and political theory – the focus of this history lesson will regard freedom of speech law on sedition. As such, the following was researched through articles from wikipedia, and the chosen content paraphrased/expanded upon by me:

In the 1919 case of Schenck v. United States, the Supreme Court heard the case of Charles Schenck, who had, during World War I, published leaflets challenging the conscription system (the draft) then in effect. The Supreme Court unanimously upheld Schenck’s conviction for violating the Espionage Act (which is still on the books today). Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., suggested that “the question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent.”

And so, the “clear and present danger” test was established, carried over in other court cases such as Debs v. United States (1919) in which Debs denounced militarism in a fashion having “natural tendency” to occlude the draft thus resulting in his conviction, and Gitlow v. New York (1925) in which Justice Edward Sanford precedented the state could punish words that “by their very nature, involve danger to the public peace and to the security of the state.” As such, the “clear and present danger” test continues to be a relative standard for the courts to this day.

Further, during the Cold War, the Congress enacted the Smith Act (still on the books today), which made it illegal to advocate “the propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force and violence.” The law was used as a defensive mechanism against Communist leaders. The constitutionality of the Act was questioned in Dennis v. United States (1951). The Court upheld the law. Chief Justice Fred M. Vinson relied on Oliver Wendell Holmes’ “clear and present danger” test when he wrote for the majority. Vinson suggested the doctrine did not require the government to “wait until the putsch is about to be executed, the plans have been laid and the signal is awaited”, thereby broadly defining the words “clear and present danger.” Thus, even though there was no immediate danger posed by the Communist Party’s ideas, the Court allowed the Congress to restrict the Communist Party’s speech.

Dennis v. United States has never been explicitly overruled by the Court, but subsequent decisions have greatly narrowed its place within First Amendment jurisprudence.

For example, the Supreme Court changed its interpretation of the Smith Act in deciding Yates v. United States (1957). The Supreme Court ruled the Act was aimed at “the advocacy of action, not ideas”. Thus, the advocacy of abstract doctrine remains protected under the First Amendment. Only speech explicitly inciting the forcible overthrow of the government remains punishable under the Smith Act. This is the precedent standing today.

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So, now we know the law, and as such we can all feel secure in our writings, while I doubt no assurances were needed. This assurance of course presupposes us reframing from explicitly inciting the forcible overthrow of the government. However, I’d like to offer some criticism in the name of education – because, heck, there may be a time we all will have to take on our moral duty to overthrow an oppressive government administration.

Knowing it is unlawful through the Yates case, we the people may not explicitly incite the forcible overthrow of the government for it would pose a clear and present danger – but I ask, why not?

The Declaration of Independence says:

“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

The Declaration of Independence is arguably the foundation the United States constructed itself on. Many of those who influenced the writing of the Declaration carried over in writing our Constitution, which established the infrastructure in what our governing laws were to be. Without a doubt, the founders responsible in designing the society in which we live in today, intended for us to keep a strict eye on our government, and as such overthrow it if certain thresholds of oppression were crossed.

It deeply surprises me a Supreme Court Justice, Congressional Representative, Senator, or any public official for that matter, would ever consider making it unlawful for a citizen to explicitly incite the forcible overthrow of the government. In fact, I would argue the First Amendment was deeply rooted in providing the people protection in assembling to make such plans for the the forcible overthrow of the government. It seems to me, we the people would never have the public and secure ground to engage in what our founders intended us to do while the Smith Act (and its protection by the Supreme Court) exists. I would argue such laws be disband or rewritten for the protection of we the people to feel secure enough to entertain the notion of overthrowing the government if the appropriate circumstances exist.

Gratefully, what do you, my fellow readers, think?

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Next, I’d like to talk about another aspect of Freedom of Speech law regarding the existence of Free Speech Zones. Let me explain, followed with a critique:

Again, researched through articles from wikipedia, and the chosen content paraphrased/expanded upon by me, the stated purpose of free speech zones is to protect the safety of those attending the political gathering, or for the safety of the protesters themselves. Additionally, Free speech zones are areas set aside in public places for political activists to exercise their right of free speech as an exercise of what is commonly called “TPM” or “time, place manner” regulation of speech. Free speech zones are most commonly set up by the Secret Service who scout locations near which the president is to pass or speak. Officials may target those displaying signs and escort them to the free speech zones before and during the event. Protesters who refuse to go to free speech zones could be arrested and charged with trespassing, disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Free Speech Zones originated during the 1988 Democratic National Convention, in which the city of Atlanta set up an official “free speech area” so the convention would not be disrupted. Since then, Free Speech Zones have been used in countless instances – while having protection by the Supreme Court.

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In a critical response to Free Speech Zones, libertarians and others claim Free Speech Zones are used as a form of censorship and public relations management to conceal the existence of popular opposition from the mass public and elected officials. I would argue the United States as a whole is a free speech zone. Further, to have a system creating victims from those who subjectively establish Free Speech Zones or the time, place, and manner we the people are to engage in free speech, ultimately undermines the freedom inherent in what the protection of free speech represents.

Even today we see these ridiculous Free Speech Zones are alive and well. An article from rawstory.com reports in an article found here: http://rawstory.com/2009/12/protesters-change-offices/

Again, your thoughts? Please.

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Silly objections to free speech are continued to be made, redressed, and reported on. Delawareonline.com reported today (12/14/09) that last month a federal judge had to intervene after a Los Angelas middle school student posted a youtube video making fun of a fellow classmate – resulting in the student being suspended from school. Luckily the student made the right choice in taking the matter to federal court to defend her right of free speech, as here charge and suspension were overruled.

To allow the school to cast this wide a net and suspend a student simply because another student takes offense to their speech, without any evidence such speech caused a substantial disruption of the school’s activities, runs afoul [of the law],” Judge Stephen V. Wilson wrote in a 60-page opinion.

The article can be found here: http://www.delawareonline.com/article/20091214/NEWS01/912140342/Court-says-cyber-bullies-still-have-freedom-of-speech

I find it very disturbing we the people make battles amongst ourselves inviting the government to potentially constrict our already limited freedoms of speech. Judges like Stephen V. Wilson don’t exist behind every federal bench, and we the people ought to remember this fact. To all like those who victimized the student from the latter press release above, a little common sense and a little bit of tolerance will make life better for us all.

Finally, viva la revolution!!!

In Liberty,
Jonathan Raof


10 comments to Libertarian Viewpoint on Freedom of Speech

  • lptbruce

    hooray for free speech. this is the kind of thing clearly indicated in our bill of rights. we certainly asserted at that time the right to over throw (tyrannical) government. to my knowledge (or belief) such rights were not forfeited in the articles of confederation (it may be argued the articles are still in force, in any event), the constitution which was subsequently adopted initially lacking any explicit acknowledgement of our rights may be seen as an invalidation of our rights. it may be that we are not bound by it. it is true that the defect — failure to enumerate at least some rights- was corrected about 2 years later in the bill of rights. where primacy in law exists may be unsettled territory. if one accepts the premise that rights are unalienable it may be that constitutional validity or lack thereof is irrelevant to the question of free expression. if so where — by what right- does a court get (authority) off claiming to validly restrict our rights. this post is a breath of fresh air.

    additionally if our government does not go back to honoring its commitments, what reason and for how much longer should we?

  • Jonathan Raof

    Lptbruce,

    Indeed, hooray for free speech.

    I checked the Articles of Confederation, and found there to be no reference explicitly written for the right of the citizenry to overthrow government. Additionally, I find the “primacy in law” debate to be ongoing as well, however,like you said, it is irrelevant to the question of free expression. The Supreme Court does get its authority in restricting rights such as freedom of speech from the constitution. Rights are more or less protected through the creation of laws, and thus the courts rule on the constitutionality of such laws accordingly. Laws such as the Smith Act pass the Supreme Court’s test because the Smith Act prevents people from creating a clear and present danger (which again is an interpreted standard derived from the first amendment they find to be linear with the what the founders intended).

    I am glad to here you found the argument to be a breath of fresh air!

  • Hmmm – while it may still be on the books – I thought the Smith Act was declared unconstitutional in 1957. Sounds like we still have a few things to look up.

    Of course, the government would recognize its own overthrow as treason, so it doesn’t surprise me the law still exists.

  • Jonathan Raof

    Jimk,

    Read, taken right from the article:

    “For example, the Supreme Court changed its interpretation of the Smith Act in deciding Yates v. United States (1957). The Supreme Court ruled the Act was aimed at “the advocacy of action, not ideas”. Thus, the advocacy of abstract doctrine remains protected under the First Amendment. Only speech explicitly inciting the forcible overthrow of the government remains punishable under the Smith Act. This is the precedent standing today.”

    Maybe speedreading isn’t your thing.
    Sounds like WE DON’T have a few things to look up. The Smith Act stands today.

    No need to comment if you don’t read the article in full.

  • Jonathan,

    I said “I thought” that implies that I am NOT sure.

    In this case, about it being on the books or not. Nor, if it is on the books whether or not it is properly enforced. Nor, whether or not; an unconstitutional law can even remain on the books. Nor, whether or not; it was actually declared unconstitutional in its entirety.

    So yes, there are questions that need to be looked up to get a full understanding. I DID NOT QUESTION WHAT YOU WROTE. Did I even ask any questions about what you wrote? Did I say you were wrong? Did I try to dispute anything you wrote? NO, I did not; I simply mentioned what I thought and said there are things we still need to find out.

    Sheesh

    Stop being so defensive all the time and arguing for arguing sakes, you said that info you presented was taken from wikipedia. Just because you took info from there and wrote it down does not mean it is correctly interpreted. In your eyes it might be, for me, that is not good enough, I don’t trust wikipedia.

    I want to see the actual cases and the actual way the law is written so that I can understand it for myself. I don’t want some left winger interpretation from an open source site like wikipedia that can change on a moments notice.

    If this is going to be the sole foundation of what you present concerning the Smith Act then don’t knock me for wanting to know more. You could help me look some of the stuff up if you’d like instead of taking it for gospel truth and implying that you are correct with no other possible interpretations allowed.

    Do you know for a fact if it was declared unconstitutional or not? Or did you just make an assumption?

    Do you know for a fact, if it was declared unconstitutional whether or not it can be on the books? Or did you just make an assumption?

    Do you know for a fact, if they can declare only part of a law unconstitutional? Or did you just make an assumption?

    Get off your damn high horse and let’s go look for the truth of the matter.

  • Jonathan Raof

    Jimk,

    I’m not on o high horse, I just thought it was weird you called into question the Smith Act being unconstitutional after I site facts and quote judges CLEARLY showing that the smith act is still standing with constitutional grounds.

    I just don’t get why you are asking questions like these:

    [Do you know for a fact if it was declared unconstitutional or not? Or did you just make an assumption?
    Do you know for a fact, if it was declared unconstitutional whether or not it can be on the books? Or did you just make an assumption?
    Do you know for a fact, if they can declare only part of a law unconstitutional? Or did you just make an assumption?]

    -It wasn’t declared constitutional. Its a fact. The facts can be seen as a part of public record: look at the courts opinion in Yates v. United States (1957).
    -It thus wasn’t an assumption.
    -They are they supreme court – so i guess they could have declared it unconstitutional, but they don’t because the smith act prevents a clear and present danger.

    Sorry for being defensive…it just seems you like to always argue the facts I present instead of the points I try and make with them. If you have a problem with the facts and find the “truth of the matter” – then present some facts of your own and lets put mine to the test.

  • Jonathan,

    WOW – you really don’t listen any more do you – LOL

    Once again, I will try to make this clear so you understand it – I did NOT attack anything you said, I did NOT say that anything you said was incorrect.

    I stated what I “thought” – it should have been obvious by my words that when I said what I thought and compared it to what you said in the article, it raised questions in my own mind that what I thought might be wrong – and thus – things need to be looked up.

    You on the hand are being very defensive as if I had the audacity to question what you wrote (even though I didn’t) and you wish to jump down my throat (implying I am too stupid to read the whole article and shouldn’t make comments) and then tell me I am all wrong etc. That I don’t have to look anything up because what you said is right and valid and there is no question.

    If you don’t get why I ask those questions then you obviously didn’t understand what I wrote.

    You also say that I am arguing facts here, I beg to differ, I am not arguing any of the facts you presented here only that you are being so overtly defensive. My comment was NOT against you or your facts. It was against my own knowledge of the case base on the information you bought to light in your article.

    You want me to present my own facts and then test yours, I cannot. I have already said numerous times, whatever facts I had prior to your post are now in question. I have to look stuff up and see for myself once I find some time to do so. Until then, the facts in your article still remain unchallenged from me.

    So yes, come down off that high pedestal you seem to sit on while you throw crap in the faces of the people looking up toward you.

  • Jonathan Raof

    Jimk,

    Do you think you would be breaking the law to explicitly form a force to overthrow government?

    Do you think there should be a law on the books to prevent people from explicitly forming a force to overthrow government?

  • Jonathan,

    If the government created a law that said no one can use force to overthrow that government, then from that government’s point of view, yes I am breaking the law.

    This does not presuppose that I think there is a higher rule of law other then the government’s. Which, by the way I do. But it is simply saying that for the government you are asking about, in their eyes, I am breaking their law.

    By doing so, I would be a traitor to that government. I would also be a revolutionary for whatever government I replace it with.

    Now, if that law had been declared unconstitutional in court, then the charges of me being a traitor would be dropped, I would be vindicated and no law would have been broken.

    No, I do not think there should be a law on the books to prevent people from overthrowing the government. I think the government should fear its people.

  • Jonathan Raof

    Jimk,

    Okay, cool, good to know.
    Thanks for your response!